“What are my odds of getting in to
[Dream School]’s MBA program?!?”
We get this question a lot.
And… we understand why.
Life is so full of uncertainty, and as human beings we crave quantifiable outcomes. This explains the obsession with “Average GMAT score & G.P.A.” charts, and the popularity of so-called “admissions calculators” and “guessing your odds” articles.
And you know what? While imperfect, those things are often “directionally” correct. They are better than nothing at helping you try to figure out where you’ll get in… except that… I entered in the background/stats of 5 close friends of mine who went to HBS (from different educational / professional / ethnic backgrounds). So far, not a single “admissions chances algorithm” has predicted with 100% certainty that ANY of us would get into HBS.
This is because admissions depends upon qualitative, “soft” skills and, ultimately, proving leadership potential. And oh yeah: how likable you are.
Stuff that is tough to put into a “calculator” or guess from a message-board “profile review”.
“So is MBA admissions a game of
So then, is it a complete crapshoot, roll-of-the-dice? Yes and no.
There are people who are “qualified” to get in, and there are those who are “highly competitive”.
If someone is indeed “highly competitive”, then the odds increase, but from “roll of the dice” to “coin toss”.
In other words, “highly competitive” means your chances are still at around 50/50, but hey — that’s better than 1/6 or 1/10.
When people ask me: “Am I getting into Wharton? Come on, be honest!” and I say, “Honestly? No, I don’t think so”, one of the first protests I get in reply is: “But my GMAT is a 750!”
To be clear: having your GMAT score close to a school’s average may make you “qualified”,
in terms of raw intellectual horsepower,
but unfortunately, it means jack squat in terms of being “highly competitive” (sorry).
“So how do I figure out if I am ‘Highly Competitive’ for Acceptance?”
Here’s how I advise people to try to figure this out:
You need to find your “Resume Twin“,
someone whose pre-MBA resume looked
almost identical to the position, accomplishments, and impact, that you have now…
…and see where they got their MBAs.
Step 1: For finding your Resume Twin: Find people from your same role, in your same company, who went on to do MBAs
- Via informal networking at work or via LinkedIn
NOTE: this person needs to have been a TRUE “peer” of yours. By this I mean:
- Same job function
- Same title
- Same level of responsibility
- Even if they had the same title, were they in charge of more stuff or less stuff than you are? Were they leading an acquisition, while you were doing mere “research”? Were they managing an investment portfolio, while you worked in “investor relations”? (or vice-versa?)
- Same promotion path
- Did they have the same title you have now?
- Did they have that title for as long as you did? (ie, if they were an Associate, were they one for 2 months or 2 years at the time of applying?)
- Did they receive promotions at the same pace as you, or faster / slower?
- Same impressiveness of “Champions”
- Did senior execs at the company adore them? Or did they think “meh”?
- Did their recommenders write that they walked on water?
The “functional equivalence” is extremely important. Some examples:
- Three candidates with 780 GMATs might all work for Goldman Sachs, but the person in the investment banking department has a dramatically better chance of getting in to an MBA program than the person in marketing or IT.
- Even within that group — from the finance or consulting industries especially — look at the Analysts / Associates who got in to your target school, and which ones didn’t. I know that things like “project ratings” are confidential, but still — surely you have some idea. When your firm sends people to DreamSchool, are those the people who only got “1s” or highest ratings in their projects? Were they named top of the Analyst class? Or do even the people who got “2s” still get in to DreamSchool?
- Yes, your department may have sent someone to DreamSchool’s MBA program a few years ago, but ask around: to put it bluntly, did they accomplish more, have a larger impact on the company? Did they work on “sexier” projects? Were they held in higher regard than you? Did they have a champion in senior management that perhaps you don’t? Were they at your level, or in a more senior position?
- Next level of analysis: did they display more of the key “brand traits” a certain school* looks for? For example, some schools place a greater emphasis on team-work, whereas others are more focused on innovation, and others seek out folks who impact the community. So maybe that colleague wasn’t staffed on projects as “sexy” as yours, but perhaps they did volunteer to completely over-haul something in the company.
*Psst! In the ApplicantLab interactive essay-building platform, I tell you WHICH brand traits each school looks for, so you can tailor your essays accordingly! Cool stuff, eh?
So — to summarize the above — the FASTEST way to figure out if you’re “competitive” to a given MBA program is to look at your ancestors…or, well, at least, the people in your role, in your company, who blazed the trail before you.
If your company has never sent anyone to your Dream MBA program, don’t panic — search the profiles of MBA students / alumni who worked at companies / organizations that are similar to yours. Who are your company’s biggest competitors? Which other companies are kind-of, sort-of, doing the same things your company does, with similar # of employees / revenue?
Step 2: Now, do the same search by college
The next level of analysis will come down to undergrad.
Searching undergrad alums who went to to your Dream MBA can be the next-best thing if your company has never sent anyone to the MBA program of your choice.
Look through your college’s alumni database, or again, trusty old LinkedIn.
Find people who:
- Went to your college
- Majored in what you majored in
- Were roughly “as involved” as you were in campus leadership
If you see someone from your alma mater as a student / alum of a top business school, look at:
- Their major: Did they major in something harder than you did? (e.g. engineering? math?)
- Their grades: Admittedly, this one might be tough to figure out since most people don’t put their grades on their LinkedIn profile, but if this person was only a few years older than you, can you ask your friends if they knew that person. Were they regarded as a top student?
- Their extra-curricular activities and on-campus leadership: Were they Student Body President, varsity sports team-captain, or running a major on-campus organization? Or were they simply “Member, Marketing Club” or “Intramural Ping-Pong: participant”?
*Just like with your company, if your undergrad alma mater hasn’t sent people to your target MBA programs, then find people who went to an equivalent college in terms of ranking / reputation.
Step 3: Reach out to those people! Now!
Ok, so you’ve searched on LinkedIn, or asked your boss or co-workers: “Say, has anyone around here gone on to get MBAs at Harvard, Carnegie Mellon, UT Austin, etc.? If so, who were they? What did they do around here?”
You’ve found someone who looks like your “resume twin” — that is, their pre-MBA and/or collegiate accomplishments are similar to yours — who is attending / has attended your Dream MBA program.
So next, I want you to reach out to them. Figure out their e-mail address (see if you can guess it from their place of employment). Better yet,
stalk them look them up on Social Media (LinkedIn, Facebook, etc.) and see if you know anyone in common. Ask that person to make an introduction.
Then, politely request an informational interview.
Get on the phone with your twin, ask them about their pre-MBA background, ask them what they did, and share your background and ask ’em what they think about your chances. If you create a good rapport with them, see if they wouldn’t mind sharing their GMAT / GPA with you. (one non-threatening way to do this is to say, “My GPA was a 3.5, and my GMAT was a 740 — would you say that’s competitive?” — this allows them to answer vaguely and does not put them in an uncomfortable spot, but they still might offer up their own stats in reply).
Also: reach out to your Resume-twin that ended up going to a school that might be a notch or two below your target school. If their background was similar to yours, you may need to cast a wider net.
There is no “MBA admissions chances calculator”
on the planet
that will be as accurate
as finding your “Resume-Twin”
(or as close to a “twin” as possible)
and seeing which MBA programs accepted them.
Once you figure out which schools are truly within range for you, then use ApplicantLab to guide you through how to best present yourself and your accomplishments to the admissions committees!
And look — if things look bad after finding your resume-twin, I don’t want you to despair. As I often tell people: “You’ll miss 100% of the shots you don’t make!”
So yes! Apply to DreamSchool, if you still want to! Go for it!!!!
Please do so with a healthy dose of realism. If your GMAT Quant percentile is low, OR If your job hasn’t allowed you to shine, OR If your extra-curricular leadership is / was non-existent, then acknowledge that it’s more like a roulette spin than a coin-toss.
Either way, ApplicantLab can help you craft your strongest application possible. Because rest assured, some other current-day Resume-Twin out there is competing against YOU during this VERY round.
How will you be chosen instead of them? By submitting the strongest application, friend.
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